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02/08/2007 03:00 PM House OIL & GAS


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03:08:14 PM Presentation: Department of Revenue - Ppt Update
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON OIL AND GAS                                                                           
                        February 8, 2007                                                                                        
                           3:07 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Vic Kohring, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Kurt Olson, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative Jay Ramras                                                                                                       
Representative Ralph Samuels                                                                                                    
Representative Mike Doogan                                                                                                      
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative Lindsey Holmes                                                                                                   
Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
PRESENTATION:  DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE - PPT UPDATE                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     HEARD                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
JONATHAN IVERSEN, Director                                                                                                      
Tax Division                                                                                                                    
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided the presentation on state revenue                                                                 
and the petroleum profits tax.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHERIE NIENHUIS, Petroleum Economist                                                                                            
Tax-Economic Research Group                                                                                                     
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Provided a  presentation and  responded to                                                               
questions regarding fiscal year 2007 projected revenue.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
GARY ROGERS, Production Audit Manager                                                                                           
Tax Division                                                                                                                    
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VIC KOHRING  called the House Special Committee  on Oil and                                                             
Gas meeting  to order  at 3:07:37  PM.   Representatives Kohring,                                                             
Samuels, Doogan, and Kawasaki were  present at the call to order.                                                               
Representatives Olson  and Ramras arrived  as the meeting  was in                                                               
progress.   Representative Lindsey Holmes and  Senator Joe Thomas                                                               
were also in attendance.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation:  Department of Revenue - PPT Update                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:08:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOHRING  announced that the  only order of business  is the                                                               
presentation by the Department of  Revenue (DOR) on the petroleum                                                               
production profits tax (PPT) update.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JONATHAN IVERSEN,  Director, Tax Division, Department  of Revenue                                                               
(DOR), offered  his assistance in  answering questions  that were                                                               
posed  at the  previous House  Special Committee  on Oil  and Gas                                                               
meeting  [held January  25, 2007],  and  in updating  information                                                               
regarding the  petroleum profits  tax (PPT)  and the  oil revenue                                                               
picture for the State of Alaska.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHERIE  NIENHUIS,  Petroleum   Economist,  Tax-Economic  Research                                                               
Group,  Department of  Revenue  (DOR),  recommended to  committee                                                               
members the use  of the Fall 2006 Revenue Sources  Book issued by                                                             
DOR, as a guide to sources of  revenue for the State of Alaska in                                                               
the near future.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. NIENHUIS  began the  presentation by  listing the  sources of                                                               
projected income  for fiscal year  2007 (FY 07).   She identified                                                               
income from the  four major parts of oil revenue  as:  royalties,                                                               
bonuses,  and rents  of  approximately  $1.5 billion;  production                                                               
taxes of  approximately $2.1 billion;  corporate income  taxes of                                                               
approximately $650  million; and property taxes  of approximately                                                               
$51  million.   After  adding  the  projected non-oil  income  of                                                               
$580.8 million,  the unrestricted general  fund budget for  FY 07                                                               
totals $4.9 billion, of which  $4,331.5 billion, or 88.2 percent,                                                               
is oil  revenue.  The forecasted  price for FY 07  was $70.00 per                                                               
barrel in  July.  By March,  and continuing for the  remainder of                                                               
FY  07,  the  forecasted  price  is  $52.50  per  barrel.    This                                                               
adjustment is  the result  of the  decline in  the price  of oil.                                                               
Ms. Nienhuis described variances in  the forecast as the year-to-                                                               
date  changes from  the fall  forecast; for  example, the  actual                                                               
prices of  oil per barrel for  FY 07 have been  3.3 percent above                                                               
the forecasted prices and the  Arctic North Slope (ANS) crude oil                                                               
production  has   been  at  1.4  percent   below  the  forecasted                                                               
production.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:16:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS  referred to [pending] lawsuits  against BP                                                               
Exploration (Alaska) Inc.  (BP), and inquired as  to whether [the                                                               
Trans-Alaska  Pipeline  (pipeline)   shut  down]  and  subsequent                                                               
increase  in production  due to  "flushing" is  reflected in  the                                                               
variance  of production  volume.   He  defined  "flushing" as  an                                                               
increase in production after a capped field is re-opened.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  IVERSEN advised  the committee  that DOR  cannot comment  on                                                               
possible damages to the State of Alaska.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NIENHUIS  informed  the  committee  that  she  believes  the                                                               
production decline [due  to the pipeline shut  down] is reflected                                                               
in  the volumes  of  the  present forecast.    Therefore, if  the                                                               
production continues at  750,000 to 800,000 barrels  a day (b/d),                                                               
the forecast will be accurate.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS asked:  "Has  there, in fact, been flushing                                                               
in the field   ...  after  it had been capped  for awhile because                                                               
of the incident [pipeline shut down]?"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. NIENHUIS relayed  that she will check with  the DOR petroleum                                                               
engineer to answer that question.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:19:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN  began an overview  of the  PPT by reviewing  the PPT                                                               
tax calculation  general formula which  is:  PPT Tax  Liability =                                                               
[(Value -  Costs)] x Tax Rate)  - Credits.  In  this formula, the                                                               
value equals  the volume  of oil and  gas produced  multiplied by                                                               
the  wellhead value.   He  described  the wellhead  value as  the                                                               
value  of oil  on the  West Coast  less transportation  expenses.                                                               
The cost  factors in  the formula  are capital  expenditures plus                                                               
operating  expenditures.   The base  tax  rate is  equal to  22.5                                                               
percent plus the progressivity factor.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN questioned if  the capital expenditures are                                                               
counted once,  as a cost, and  again as an additional  20 percent                                                               
credit.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN confirmed that there is  a deduction on the cost side                                                               
and the credit against qualified expenditures is also allowed.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  IVERSEN  continued with  the  presentation  by defining  the                                                               
credits  in the  PPT tax  calculation  formula as  20 percent  of                                                               
capital  expenditures  plus  20 percent  of  eligible  transition                                                               
expenditures, also  known as transition  investment expenditures,                                                               
plus  a  base allowance  that  is  determined by  the  production                                                               
volume of the company.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN requested that  Mr. Iversen give an example                                                               
of an eligible transition expenditure.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  IVERSEN explained  that  transition investment  expenditures                                                               
are capital  investments that were  made five years prior  to the                                                               
passage of the PPT.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS advised that  the intent of the transition                                                               
investments expenditures  credit is that  a $2 credit  of capital                                                               
investment made today would be the  equivalent to $1 spent in the                                                               
past.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:25:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. NIENHUIS added that 20  percent of five years of expenditures                                                               
credit  can be  taken over  a  seven year  period; therefore  the                                                               
equivalent is not quite $2 to $1.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN described  the PPT true-up payment  as the difference                                                               
between  the  estimate of  taxes  based  on  the PPT,  which  was                                                               
effective on  April 1, 2006, and  the estimate of taxes  based on                                                               
the economic limit factor (ELF).   He pointed out that from April                                                               
to December 2006,  the taxpayers have been paying  taxes based on                                                               
the ELF.   Therefore, due at the  end of March will  be a true-up                                                               
payment that  DOR has estimated to  be $0.95 billion, and  for FY                                                               
07, this difference  is projected to be $1.2  billion, which also                                                               
includes the months of April and May 2006.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS  commented  on the  dramatic  increase  in                                                               
projected oil tax revenue resulting from the passage of the PPT.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN spoke of several  questions posed during the drafting                                                               
of the PPT draft regulations  and informed the committee that the                                                               
final review  is expected to  be completed  by the end  of March.                                                               
Expected  implementation of  the  first round  of regulations  is                                                               
anticipated  for April  and the  second  regulation project  will                                                               
begin in the spring of 2007.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:32:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOHRING  referred to  a letter  from Mahoney  & Associates,                                                               
LLC  of  Anchorage,  Alaska   (Mahoney),  that  outlines  serious                                                               
concerns about the  proposed regulations.  He  requested that Mr.                                                               
Iversen  provide  the  committee   with  DOR's  reaction  to  the                                                               
concerns expressed in the letter.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  IVERSEN assured  committee  members that  comments from  all                                                               
sources are considered  during the drafting of  regulations.  Mr.                                                               
Iversen  then turned  to the  questions  posed by  Representative                                                               
Ramras  during  the previous  committee  meeting  of January  25,                                                               
2007.  He began by addressing  the question as to whether any new                                                               
activity has  been seen by  small producers since the  passage of                                                               
the PPT.  Mr. Iversen  relayed that because exploration plans are                                                               
made well in  advance, the PPT probably will not  have a dramatic                                                               
effect for FY  06 or FY 07.  However,  some taxpayers have sought                                                               
credits under  AS 43.55.025, Oil  and Gas  Exploration Production                                                               
Credit  Program,  enacted  in 2003.    Taxpayers  have  submitted                                                               
approximately  $253  million   in  exploration  expenditures  for                                                               
approval with tax credit claims of about $91 million.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN then addressed the  question regarding the complexion                                                               
of oil  and gas exploration since  the passage of PPT.   He noted                                                               
that new  explorations and exploratory drilling  plans by smaller                                                               
companies were  discussed in  a recent  article published  by the                                                               
Anchorage  Daily News.   The  smaller  companies mentioned  were:                                                             
Eni  Petroleum,  FEX  LLC, Alaska  Venture  Capital  Group/Brooks                                                               
Range Petroleum Corporation,  Anadarko Petroleum Corporation, and                                                               
Pioneer Alaska, Inc.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN  continued with  the following  question:   "If, when                                                               
the state opens the envelope on  March 31st and it discovers that                                                               
PPT did  not work  ...   does DNR  [tax division] have a  plan to                                                               
remedy  the  problem  with  the legislature?"    He  advised  the                                                               
committee that to  his knowledge no specific plan  has been made,                                                               
although a legislative remedy can not be ruled out.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:37:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN, in  response to the question of an  estimate of BP's                                                               
deferred   maintenance  cost   for   rehabilitating  the   inline                                                               
transmission lines,  commented that BP Exploration  (Alaska) Inc.                                                               
(BP) has estimated  $250 million in capital  costs.  Furthermore,                                                               
BP has indicated  on its web site  that it will spend  a total of                                                               
approximately  $550   million  over   the  next  two   years  for                                                               
"integrity management," including replacement  of the 16 miles of                                                               
pipeline.   He reiterated that he  could not comment on  how BP's                                                               
costs will affect state tax revenue.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN asked  if the state will  still realize the                                                               
$1.3 billion surplus indicated in  the governor's budget bill for                                                               
FY 07.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. NIENHUIS  assured Representative Doogan of  her confidence in                                                               
DOR's FY 07 forecast of $4.9 billion in total revenue.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN  ascertained that  the PPT  tax calculation                                                               
credits of 20  percent of capital expenditures and  20 percent of                                                               
eligible transition expenditures are calculated per year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  IVERSEN confirmed  that  the credits  are  calculated at  20                                                               
percent per year, but pointed out  that amount can not be greater                                                               
than 10 percent of the capital expenditures for the same year.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NIENHUIS  further  explained  by giving  the  example  of  a                                                               
company that spent  $50 million during each of the  five years of                                                               
the transition  period [five  years prior to  the passage  of the                                                               
PPT] would accrue  a total of $250 million in  expenditures.  The                                                               
total expenditures the  company would then be able to  claim as a                                                               
credit, if qualified, would be 20 percent of the $250 million.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:41:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN inquired  as to how the  first PPT payments                                                               
will be made  in March if the regulations are  not in place until                                                               
April.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN informed  the committee that DOR will do  its best to                                                               
coordinate [payments] with the taxpayers.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN said:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I  understand that  one of  the  considerations in  the                                                                    
     regulation may be allowing the  taxpayer some period of                                                                    
     time to revise  their taxes  ...  [and  if so] we won't                                                                    
     know  the true  effect  of the  PPT  for whatever  that                                                                    
     period  is because  there may  be changes  ... then  we                                                                    
     won't know until  the end of that period  what the real                                                                    
     effect  of  the PPT  is  going  to be    ...   Is  that                                                                    
     correct?                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  IVERSEN reminded  the committee  that until  the regulations                                                               
are final  the possibility of  a revision period for  tax returns                                                               
is unknown.   However, he assured members  that reasonable terms,                                                               
to address  difficulties in the  regulations, will  be negotiated                                                               
with the taxpayers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOHRING  requested that Mr.  Iversen provide  the committee                                                               
with  information on  the proposed  time limit  [revision period]                                                               
for  filing amended  tax returns.   He  further inquired  about a                                                               
possible  change  to  the  accounting method  of  the  PPT,  from                                                               
calculations based on gross profits  to calculations based on net                                                               
profits, that is being considered by the Palin Administration.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:44:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN informed  the committee that he  could not anticipate                                                               
legislation proposed by the Palin Administration.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOHRING announced  to  the  committee that  Representative                                                               
Gara has sponsored [HB 89], which  addresses the issue of the PPT                                                               
tax  calculations based  on gross  versus net  revenue.   He then                                                               
asked:   "Is it  clearly in the  statue that  [regulations] would                                                               
allow [BP],  if they choose  to ...  in fact, deduct  those costs                                                               
[to replace the corroded lines]?"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. IVERSEN replied  that DOR has not made  a determination about                                                               
the replacement costs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS requested  a  further  explanation of  the                                                               
relationship  between  the  forecasted prices  and  the  expected                                                               
amount of  the true-up payment from  June to December.   He asked                                                               
the  presenters  to  provide  DOR's estimate  of  the  amount  of                                                               
revenue that  can be expected  from the PPT component  versus the                                                               
ELF measurement through the remaining months of FY 07.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:50:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NIENHUIS   explained  that   the  true-up  payment   is  the                                                               
difference between  the ELF and the  PPT for the period  of April                                                               
1, 2006, through the  end of the 2006 calendar year.   At the end                                                               
of March,  the taxpayers will  calculate taxes under the  PPT and                                                               
compare that amount  to what has been paid under  the ELF and the                                                               
difference  will  be  the  projected   true-up  payment  of  $950                                                               
million.  Revenue  from the production months  of January through                                                               
May 2007,  is incorporated in  the total estimate of  revenue for                                                               
FY 07  of $2.067 billion and  estimated revenue under the  ELF is                                                               
approximately $860  million; therefore,  the true-up  estimate is                                                               
$950 million  and the remaining  amount is production  [tax] from                                                               
June through May.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:52:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS asked:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     [What]  is the  specific month-to-month  comparison [of                                                                    
     the PPT  and the ELF]  when [the  price of oil]  was at                                                                    
     $78.00  [per  barrel]?    Maybe   80  percent  of  that                                                                    
     variance between  the PPT and  the ELF was  realized in                                                                    
     the summer  months of June,  July, and August  and only                                                                    
     20 percent  of that variance  is realized in  the other                                                                    
     eight or nine months that  make up this fiscal year ...                                                                    
     At $55.00  a barrel WTI [West  Texas Intermediate crude                                                                    
     oil price],  I don't  think the  economics of  PPT were                                                                    
     that much more remarkable than the economics of ELF.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. NIENHUIS  confirmed that the  difference between the  ELF and                                                               
the PPT was much greater during  the period of higher oil prices.                                                               
She further  explained that the progressivity  [component] of the                                                               
PPT goes  into effect when  the net income  per barrel of  oil is                                                               
about  $40.00.   After an  allowance for  transportation cost  is                                                               
added, the  state will see  a tax  rate increase when  prices are                                                               
about  $55.00 per  barrel of  oil.   She suggested  the committee                                                               
members consider  the graph on page  85 of the Fall  2006 Revenue                                                             
Sources  Book  which  illustrates   the  additional  increase  to                                                             
revenue when oil prices are at, or above, $55.00 per barrel.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GARY ROGERS,  Production Audit Manager, Tax  Division, Department                                                               
of  Revenue  (DOR),  addressed  Representative  Ramras'  question                                                               
regarding the  effect of the  PPT on exploration by  pointing out                                                               
that much  of the  recent exploration is  due to  the exploration                                                               
production tax  credit enacted in  2003.   A period of  months or                                                               
years will  pass, he continued, before  the effect of the  PPT is                                                               
seen.     However,  since  the   inception  of   the  exploration                                                               
production  tax credit,  one quarter  of one  billion dollars  in                                                               
exploration tax credit claims has  been submitted.  He added that                                                               
the  sunset  [expiration  date] of  the  exploration  tax  credit                                                               
legislation has been extended to 2016.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:58:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOHRING  requested  that DOR  provide  the  committee  the                                                               
following:  a model or  comparison of the estimated revenues from                                                               
the PPT based  on gross instead of net earnings,  reaction to the                                                               
questions  posed  by the  authors  of  the letter  from  Mahoney,                                                               
clarification of the statutes regarding  the deductibility of the                                                               
expenses for upgrading  the network of pipes on  the North Slope,                                                               
and the  response from the  petroleum engineer  to Representative                                                               
Ramras' question regarding an [increase  of oil production due to                                                               
"flushing"].                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special Committee  on Oil and  Gas meeting was adjourned  at 4:00                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            

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